Comments on: The Two Types of Web-Based GTD Systems http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/ Productivity for Entrepreneurs, GTD Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:03:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: My Get Things Done List » Blog Archive » My New Favorite Productivity Application [The Cranking Widgets Blog] http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-11357 My Get Things Done List » Blog Archive » My New Favorite Productivity Application [The Cranking Widgets Blog] Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:02:14 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-11357 [...] considering my previous idea about the two types of web-based GTD systems, Backpack is as close to a perfect marriage of the two that I’ve come across. I bet [...] [...] considering my previous idea about the two types of web-based GTD systems, Backpack is as close to a perfect marriage of the two that I’ve come across. I bet [...]

]]> By: My New Favorite Productivity Application at The Cranking Widgets Blog http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2932 My New Favorite Productivity Application at The Cranking Widgets Blog Thu, 03 May 2007 12:00:31 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2932 [...] considering my previous idea about the two types of web-based GTD systems, Backpack is as close to a perfect marriage of the two that I’ve come across. I bet [...] [...] considering my previous idea about the two types of web-based GTD systems, Backpack is as close to a perfect marriage of the two that I’ve come across. I bet [...]

]]> By: Matt http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2882 Matt Wed, 02 May 2007 21:34:03 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2882 Where's Hiveminder on the list? I've used it for a little while and find it very effective. The braindump allows easy input of many items and custom tags let you configure contexts, projects, and sub-projects in any fashion you wish. I like it much better than TRM and Vitalist. Where’s Hiveminder on the list? I’ve used it for a little while and find it very effective. The braindump allows easy input of many items and custom tags let you configure contexts, projects, and sub-projects in any fashion you wish. I like it much better than TRM and Vitalist.

]]> By: DaveGarbutt http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2540 DaveGarbutt Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:59:19 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2540 HI, you haven't mentioned the offline wiki system I use: MonkeyGTD http://monkeyGTD.tiddlyspot.com/ I am using the alpha version of the next major version and it seems fine for reliability. I can't express how cool it is. :-) It is based on tiddlyWiki (see www.tiddlywiki.com) a self contained, one file wiki that I use at work from Windows and at home from my beloved Mac Cube. I sync up with a USB stick, and sometimes print to A6 cards for a real hipster moments. There is also a hosted version at tiddlyspot.com which can be detached and re-synched. enjoy, Dave HI,

you haven’t mentioned the offline wiki system I use: MonkeyGTD
http://monkeyGTD.tiddlyspot.com/
I am using the alpha version of the next major version and it seems fine for reliability.
I can’t express how cool it is. :-)

It is based on tiddlyWiki (see http://www.tiddlywiki.com) a self contained, one file wiki that I use at work from Windows and at home from my beloved Mac Cube.
I sync up with a USB stick, and sometimes print to A6 cards for a real hipster moments.

There is also a hosted version at tiddlyspot.com which can be detached and re-synched.

enjoy,

Dave

]]> By: ciret http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2209 ciret Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:31:20 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2209 I'm still relatively new to GTD, Feb '07. And, yes I too suffer from the gadget/appitis. I guess somewhere deep down inside I think there must be that perfect app that will make all this work and stuff get organized and done, no sweat. But back to reality. I have used a number of organizers and personal management systems over the years and have sort of settled into a composition book, (moleskines look nice and are nice to write on but at $12-$15 ea for 2-3 months of notes is too much $$ for me), for notes and my Notes calendar sync'd to the Blackberry. Notes and the BB are work issue and I don't see any advantage to running 2 systems, so I have to go with what is available. I looked at a lot of the online systems and signed up and tried more than a few of them. I have been using the MonkeyGTD tiddlywiki for a month or so. It has some nice features and some thinks that I think I can tweak as I learn more about how the tiddlywiki works. I can print to 3x5 cards which I find to be a very useful way of collecting and reviewing next actions. I lay the cards out on the desk every morning and order them into priorities for the day. But again the bottomline is getting the work done. I recognize thta I need to keep re-reading the book and working on implementation of more of the core concepts, I'm terrible with the weekly review and mind sweep. I have a hard time with work vs personal, some areas of GTD I do better in the work setting and some in the personal setting. I'm glad there are a number of resources/blogs/websites/etc out there for inspiration. Take care, ==>Eric I’m still relatively new to GTD, Feb ‘07. And, yes I too suffer from the gadget/appitis. I guess somewhere deep down inside I think there must be that perfect app that will make all this work and stuff get organized and done, no sweat. But back to reality. I have used a number of organizers and personal management systems over the years and have sort of settled into a composition book, (moleskines look nice and are nice to write on but at $12-$15 ea for 2-3 months of notes is too much $$ for me), for notes and my Notes calendar sync’d to the Blackberry. Notes and the BB are work issue and I don’t see any advantage to running 2 systems, so I have to go with what is available. I looked at a lot of the online systems and signed up and tried more than a few of them. I have been using the MonkeyGTD tiddlywiki for a month or so. It has some nice features and some thinks that I think I can tweak as I learn more about how the tiddlywiki works. I can print to 3×5 cards which I find to be a very useful way of collecting and reviewing next actions. I lay the cards out on the desk every morning and order them into priorities for the day. But again the bottomline is getting the work done. I recognize thta I need to keep re-reading the book and working on implementation of more of the core concepts, I’m terrible with the weekly review and mind sweep. I have a hard time with work vs personal, some areas of GTD I do better in the work setting and some in the personal setting.
I’m glad there are a number of resources/blogs/websites/etc out there for inspiration.

Take care,

==>Eric

]]> By: Travis http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2200 Travis Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:14:31 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2200 Thanks for the awesome article. I agree with the sentiments of some of the replies above - there comes a time when GTD should be about getting things done rather than getting GTD set up. I have a stong perfectionist streak running through me that I am trying to be rid of, and fiddling with kewl new GTD apps fits the bill nicely. FWIW: I am finally down to picking betwixt a hosted TiddlyWiki over at tiddlyspot.com and Toodledo.com for my online portion. The bulk of my personal organizational system is still pen & paper. Thanks for the awesome article. I agree with the sentiments of some of the replies above – there comes a time when GTD should be about getting things done rather than getting GTD set up. I have a stong perfectionist streak running through me that I am trying to be rid of, and fiddling with kewl new GTD apps fits the bill nicely. FWIW: I am finally down to picking betwixt a hosted TiddlyWiki over at tiddlyspot.com and Toodledo.com for my online portion. The bulk of my personal organizational system is still pen & paper.

]]> By: slb http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2196 slb Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:43:06 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2196 paper beats all comers. i tried GTD tracks, basecamp, google calendar, remember the milk, iGTD, entourage, and gmail with the GTD extension. ditto the eskimo in the ice cube store. i returned to paper. it's simple, reliable, portable, system independent, and real. and you won't waste time 'fiddling the system'. slb cambridge, MA paper beats all comers.

i tried GTD tracks, basecamp, google calendar, remember the milk, iGTD, entourage, and gmail with the GTD extension. ditto the eskimo in the ice cube store.

i returned to paper. it’s simple, reliable, portable, system independent, and real. and you won’t waste time ‘fiddling the system’.

slb
cambridge, MA

]]> By: rob http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2173 rob Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:25:40 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2173 Choose a system. Stick with it. DO THINGS. Stop procrastinating by looking for the perfect sytem - it does not exist. DO MORE THINGS. Stop reading blogs which keep recomending new systems - OK hands up i'm guilty of that. , damn this GTD thing is so hard at times.... Choose a system. Stick with it. DO THINGS. Stop procrastinating by looking for the perfect sytem – it does not exist. DO MORE THINGS. Stop reading blogs which keep recomending new systems – OK hands up i’m guilty of that. , damn this GTD thing is so hard at times….

]]> By: Duff http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2169 Duff Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:53:03 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2169 Brett, I pretty much agree with you here. My GTD implementation consists of Backpack (for lists and notes), Gmail w/GTDInbox (although I might drop GTDInbox soon--too much clutter and slows down GMail considerably), Google Calendar for calendar and tickler (using "all-day events" and the daily agenda email) and text message reminders (once a day max). I also carry a tiny calendar and a P.A.D. (also called a Hipster PDA, but I refer to it as a Personal Analog Device), for catching and carrying data offline. I like playing with new applications (e.g. Jott.com), but I agree that very few implement well, and almost all are unnecessary for actually getting things done, so I always go back to "good enough." Brett,

I pretty much agree with you here.

My GTD implementation consists of Backpack (for lists and notes), Gmail w/GTDInbox (although I might drop GTDInbox soon–too much clutter and slows down GMail considerably), Google Calendar for calendar and tickler (using “all-day events” and the daily agenda email) and text message reminders (once a day max). I also carry a tiny calendar and a P.A.D. (also called a Hipster PDA, but I refer to it as a Personal Analog Device), for catching and carrying data offline.

I like playing with new applications (e.g. Jott.com), but I agree that very few implement well, and almost all are unnecessary for actually getting things done, so I always go back to “good enough.”

]]> By: Todd V http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-2168 Todd V Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:53:00 +0000 http://blog.crankingwidgets.com/2007/04/18/web-gtd-systems/#comment-2168 There is also 3. A fully-transparent solution that keeps your GTD workflow from getting locked into only one application but also allows you to use every application you have. Web-based GTD implementations have two shortcomings: refresh rates and access issues. Nobody wants to wait for the screen to refresh each time they make a change to their system, and the one time the server goes down with all of their important stuff, the solution ceases to be reliable. All-in-one app solutions have the shortcomings of not knowing whether the app will be supported long-term and being forced to work only from within it. This is why I designed a file-system implementation for the Mac called "Ready-Set-Do!". It doesn't lock users into an application and keeps the bread and butter of the person's workflow riding on the file system which will be accessible for the next 10-20 years. It also has the vertical dimensions of GTD, better implementation of Projects, and the Someday-Maybe and Tickler functionality that many other GTD systems lack. It's not a fancy GUI application, but what it lacks in eye-candy it makes up for in transparency and reliability. I'm looking for more feedback and would appreciate any advice or suggestions from users who would like to try it out: http://homepage.mac.com/toddvasquez/apps There is also

3. A fully-transparent solution that keeps your GTD workflow from getting locked into only one application but also allows you to use every application you have.

Web-based GTD implementations have two shortcomings: refresh rates and access issues. Nobody wants to wait for the screen to refresh each time they make a change to their system, and the one time the server goes down with all of their important stuff, the solution ceases to be reliable.

All-in-one app solutions have the shortcomings of not knowing whether the app will be supported long-term and being forced to work only from within it.

This is why I designed a file-system implementation for the Mac called “Ready-Set-Do!”. It doesn’t lock users into an application and keeps the bread and butter of the person’s workflow riding on the file system which will be accessible for the next 10-20 years. It also has the vertical dimensions of GTD, better implementation of Projects, and the Someday-Maybe and Tickler functionality that many other GTD systems lack. It’s not a fancy GUI application, but what it lacks in eye-candy it makes up for in transparency and reliability. I’m looking for more feedback and would appreciate any advice or suggestions from users who would like to try it out:

http://homepage.mac.com/toddvasquez/apps

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